- Read the section of The Iliad handed out in class and take notes on paper about the option 2 from The Book Thief handout.
- Do the same for pages 154-204 in BT:
Option 2: List examples of imagery with page (line) numbers that help you see the main characters(s), the setting and the conflicts arising.
What to Post:
- You will post three examples of imagery from both texts.
- You will then explain how one example FROM EACH contributes to an understanding of the book it comes from.
- Lastly, what similarities do you find between these texts?
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Imagery From "The Iliad":
ReplyDelete"...Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing"(Line 112-114).
"And the anger came on Peleus' son, and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided to ways, pondering whether to draw from beside his thigh the sharp sword, driving away all those who stood between and kill the son of Atreus, or else to check the spleen within and keep down his anger"(Line 184-188).
"Then stricken at heart though you be, you will be able to do nothing, when in their numbers before man-slaughtering Hektor they drop and die. And then you will eat out the heart within you in sorrow, that you did no honor to the best of the Achaians"(Line 238-140).
Kev, how do these quotes help you understand Iliad? What did you visualize in your mind when you first read those lines?
DeleteBasically, it helped me visualize the war between the Trojan vs. The Greeks. The anger and rage built up from Agamemnon is a trait used during war which helps a person better themselves. Also to connect it, it shows an example of personification due to the heart, Zusak tries to make it seem the heart is enraged and as it does it makes the outer shell(the god) become the center of pain to focus in on hurting others
DeleteDo mean Zusak from the Book Thief or Homer, who wrote Iliad? I agree that anger and rage is a trait to use in war. It blinds the warriors from seeing reality and just wanna do what their heart feels. It makes sense about why Agamemnon is being stubborn because he's blinded by anger
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DeleteKevin, I don't quite understand what your point is when you say: "Zusak tries to make it seem the heart is enraged and as it does it makes the outher shell(the god) become the center of pain to focus in on hurting others." Are you trying to say that the gods' rageful hearts allowed them to commit merciless crimes? If you are, this is confusing, since Agamemnon is not a god and this is who you were referring to.
DeleteExamples of imagery from the Book Thief
ReplyDelete1. "Her teeth elbowed each other for room in her mouth" (155)
2. "He poured water onto the road in the exact position where Otto would pedal around the corner" (162)
3. "skinny as a whittled broom handle" (187)
Examples of imagery from the Iliad
1. "The shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily" (lines 46-47)
2."the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath" (lines 103-104)
3. "the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea" (line 154)
In the book, The Book Thief, the author uses imagery to give the reader a better understanding of the book. Rudy and Liesel were planning to rob a boy named Otto who always brought food to the priests. Rudy carefully "poured water onto the road in the exact position where Otto would pedal around the corner" (162). This is an example of imagery because I'm able to visual Rudy "pouring water" carefully in the place where Otto is suppose to go through. This helps me understand that the children want to successfully rob Otto and get his food. I also understand that these children are very hungry because they are choosing to commit a robbery.
The author of the Iliad used imagery to help the reader get a clear understanding of the book. Agamemnon was angered when Kalchas, a prophet, told him that he has to give back Apollo's priestess that way Apollo won't be so angry with the Greeks. When he heard this, his "heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath" (lines 103-104). I imagine a heart that is originally red as blood turning black, from the bottom all the way to the top, until all of Agamemnon's heart has turned black. This helps me understand that Agamemnon has an anger management problem because he doesn't like to be told what to do and he gets mad in an instant. So I can infer that Agamemnon is going to be stubborn and not to what the prophet said to do.
A similarity I noticed was that the authors use either metaphors or similes to compare things to each other. Like when Markus Zusak compares Max's skinny condition to a broom handle that is also very skinny. Zuask decided to use it in a form of a simile by using the words "as a". While Homer metaphorically says that Agamemnon's heart is turning black when in reality a heart can't turn black. But Homer decides no to use the words "as a" or "like" which makes it a metaphor. But either way they're comparing to unlikely things.
I agree with you because both authors uses figurative languages to describe the characters, which gives the readers a better understanding of the text and better image of them. The author also used different strategies of imagery to illustrate the character through dialogue.
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DeleteHomer actually uses smilies. In line 104, Homer states “His two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (104). Homer uses this smilie to compare to unlikely things (like how you said in the last sentence). By doing this, Homer is showing how Atreus' son was mad.
-Angela
Imagery From The Book Thief:
ReplyDelete"You two," he said to Rudy and Liesel. "Maybe you should take it back to that Strum character. I'd say that poor bastard probably deserves that much."(Zusak 164).
"Certainly, he could almost touch it. He could feel it, somewhere just out of reach. Instead of acknowledging it, he went about the business of deciding again what to do if he was caught at the last moment or if by some chance the wrong person awaited him inside"(Zusak 169).
"A trickle of blood was dripping from Max's mouth. He tasted it, and it tasted good"(Zusak 187).
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Kevin, I see how your last two quotes show imagery but i dont see how your first quote of imagery would help show the reader understand the message of the book or understand it better ?
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Deletekevin you have picked another quote for your first qoute like stephanie said, it should be something that is a little bit complex in which you have to interpret the quote to imagine or picture the scene
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Three examples of imagery in The Book Theif:
1. "Heil Hitler," she responded, straightening taller behind the counter. "And you?" She glared at Liesel, who promptly gave her a "Heil Hitler" of her own.(155)
2. Liesel arrived and started pulling at the fabric of his pants. Rudy's eyes were opened wide with fear. "Quick," he said, "hes coming." (165)
3.Max made his way to Munich and Molching, and now he sat in a stranger's kitchen, asking for the help he craved and suffering the condemnation he felt he deserved. (196).
This helps me get a general gist on the understanding of the book because little by little all the characters from chapters in the beginning of the book are tying into characters from later pages. This is showing me how things were so complicated for those who werent a part of the Nazi Party like Hans. This shows the morals and ways these Germans were forced to live by. How crucial it was and how complicated things were for jews, children, and people in society in general.
Which characters are being tied to characters from earlier in the book?
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DeleteDo you remember how Hans Hubermann fought with this man named Erik Vandenburg?
Well who would of thought that the little boy Hans saw when he went to go give the accordian to Erik's wife was Max Vandenburg!
Hans had come into contact with Max when he was only 2 years old. Who knew years later Maz would come knocking on Hans door avoiding society.
* Max
DeleteAislee,
DeleteDon't you find it interesting how Zusak didn't capitalize when Liesel said "Heil Hitler"?
-Angela
P.S. I think he did that to show how Liesel doesn't really support Hitler as much as she did before.
The line from "Iliad" which help me best to understand the purpose of this story was "And the anger came on Peleus' son, and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided to ways, pondering whether to draw from beside his thigh the sharp sword, driving away all those who stood between and kill the son of Atreus, or else to check the spleen within and keep down his anger"(Line 184-188). This helps contribute to the story which is based on war,due to the anger which he has flowing through him right now seems to be key to help destroy and kill people. Soldiers uses this when they're ready for war which makes it seem to amp but yet they have to think both ways before taking actions.
ReplyDeleteThe specific quote which help me come to the conclusion of the idea for The Book Thief was "A trickle of blood was dripping from Max's mouth. He tasted it, and it tasted good"(Zusak 187). This helped me think about the message which is basically war and human actions because Max's new obsession which is fighting leads him to live a brutal lifestyle but yet it also help me understand that human actions are major decisions when it comes down to it but it doesn't hurt to try to defend your self.
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Kevin, i dont understand how you see the message is war?
Can you explain?
I see in that quote how, Max found relief in fist fighting after he had lost his father and his uncle tradgicly and how Jewish people had to face much more personal struggles while living at the time during Hitlers reign, I don't see how the message could be war however...
Kevin, I can understand how you would interpret a theme of war from Max's fighting, because World War II was an influential setting and also fighting, in general, is synonymous with a battle of some sorts. What I might be misinterpreting, though, is how you perceive the author is trying to convey a message about promoting self defense. Is this the message you're trying to explain; would you care to better elaborate?
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ReplyDeleteI got a different message from that quote. That quote helped me understand all the struggleds Jews later had to overcome because they later had to live a hard life. They were always trying to get away from the Nazis.
Actually, I didn't get any of that, while reading that line in the book I'm pretty sure the author was trying to give the reader some background information about Max, his interest and such. I really don't get how Jewish people had to face struggle during that time period, though I know you're trying to say that that's how the Jewish felt then, I just don't understand how you got that from THAT quote.
DeleteI saw it as a foreshadowing type thing. Maybe all of this fighting could mean he will use it eventually or maybe not. Especially since he is a Jew maybe hes going to have to defend himself against the Nazi which is not likely but you never know.
DeleteI agree with Gloria. I understand how Max comes from a 'fist fighting' background, but this quote doesn't show how it led him to a harsh life later on. I would think of this as something in his youth, and how the person he was fighting becomes his friend and saves his life later on.
DeleteI agree with Gloria as well. To me, this quote shows background information about Max. I really don't see it as a "foreshadowing type thing". I just think it shows how Max is willing to fight for anything and that he actually likes doing that.
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What I find interesting between these two texts is that they both use simile and metaphor's comparing characters. In "Iliad", Homer uses the words "as A" to describe Agamemnon's heart which is full of rage, he uses this metaphorically because a heart cant really be black or full of rage, he might have heart burn but that not the case. In The Book Thief Zusak uses the "like" to describe Max's appearance which is Liesel's foster's dad army veteran best friend's son, to describe how skinny he is as a person its just very confusing to recognize but when he uses this word, you better understand how their views around them affects them and their choices they've made and will do in the future.
ReplyDeleteWow, I didn't notice that before. While I was reading both text the only thing I was looking for was parts that show imagery but I didn't really look into how the author created that piece of imagery. Next time, I'll remember to look out for similes and metaphors when the author is creating an image for the reader.
DeleteSome pieces of imagery that I found in the Iliad is when the author described how Apollo "came as night comes down" (line 47), and when Achilleus says "Apollo beloved of Zeus" (line 86), there is also when the author describes Agammemnon; "Arteus' son the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (line 102-104).
ReplyDeleteIn The Book Thief, some imagery I identified was when Max was going to find Hans, and to get there he needed to take the train. While showing his ticket, the ticket booth-man (I forgot what those guys where called,) asked Max for paper, and in that moment the narrator described Max with "The shivering hands. The smell-no, the stench- of guilt" (159). Also, when the author introduced Max from Hans past memories, Max was described as "skinny, with soft hair, and his thick murky eyes watched as the stranger played one more song in the heavy room" (179). The third piece of imagery I found was when Hans was trying to threaten Liesel into promising to not tell anyone about Max. Hans told Liesel that if she told any one he would burn all her books and the narrator described that "the shock made a hole in her, very neat, very precise" (203).
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Quotes From The Iliad
He came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow (47)
for a king when he is angry with a man beneath him is too strong (80)
Since indeed there is much that lies beneath us, the shadowy mountains ans echoing sea (152)
Quotes from "The Book Thief"
the body in the opposite bed had turned and curled up it was no longer a straight log but a kind of z-shape reaching diagonally from corner to corner zig-zagging the bed (Zusak 201)
Behind Max Vandenburg the city of Stuttgart opened its arms in mockery (Zusak 157)
I will take each and everyone of your books and I will burn them I'll throw thwm in the stove or in the fire place (Zusak 203)
In the "Iliad" Homer describes how Apollo is in rage and he "came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow" (47) the reader can understand more the conflict with Homersuse of imagery. By describing Apollo's enterance and giving specific details on how he had come down as night. With the diction choices of "night" and "let go an arrow" you can visualize how mad Apollo really was. The rage the God must have had, and coming down like "night" you all of a sudden see darkness and feel frightened. when he let go of an arrow he began to use force and you visualize how angry he is and how the conflict is starting to rise.
In the "Book Theif" Zusak helps the reader understand the book more when he decribes using imagery how Hanns Hubermann threatens his foster Daughter Liesel. When Zusak describes that Hanns will take each and everyone of your books and I will burn them and throw thwm in the stove or in the fire place (Zusak 203. By having the reader visualize what Hanns will do, you understabnd more the book since, he has to keep the Jew and not have anyone find out about it. By saying "Burn them all" you can picture how Hanns is actually talking serious to Liesel, by taking somthing she loves and using it against her.
I agree with you. It totally showed a different side to Hans' charcater. You can also see how Hans didn't want to do it, but he was tempted to go and embrace Liesel and he did. This once again shows how Hans is taking his promise so seriously.
DeleteI agree as well. This is a totally different side of Hans. He does it for the safety of Liesel as well as his and Rosa's. He tried to get the idea of how dangerous keeping a Jew in the house really is.
DeleteThe piece of imagery from the Iliad that particularly helped me understand the poem (a bit more...) was when the author described Agamemnon as "Arteus' son the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger..." (line 102-103) Helps me understand the author wants me to think of Agamemnon's place in society and his personality because when the author wrote that Agamemnon is "the hero wide-ruling" it made me think that he's someone with honor and respect since he's mentioned as a hero. Also, as the reader I can imagine what kind of person he is by reading "the heart within filled black brimmed with anger" just because he's heard Kalchas explanation to why Apollo is mad, I can just imagine how short of a fuse he has and how in the future I should keep in mind about this characteristic about him.
ReplyDeleteI agree that your quote on Agamemnon helps readers have a better understanding of the character but I don't that its imagery since it's only describing characteristics, not describing the current setting.
DeleteAdditionally, in The Book Thief when the Hans was threatening Liesel to not spill the beans about Max to anyone by saying he'll burn all her books, he actually caused a "shock that made a hole in her heart" (203)I could imagined how much that must've hurt (obviously). This made me understand a characteristic of Hans, which is that he's able to understand the importance of things and he's willing to hurt others in order to protect someone. Considering, how Hans loves Liesel and cares about her, and considering how he knows that she loves books so much that she's willing to steal for them, Hans actually used that knowledge to hurt her that badly. Also, it made me understand just how much books mean to her, because right after her father said that to her she immediately felt a "hole" in her heart.
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Deletehans only did this one time. it doesnt shape his whole personality. its just a warning to her so she wont feel tempted to "spill the beans about max", ever.
The similarities that I found between the two texts is that they both use imagery to describe how a character feels and that allows the reader to understand more about that certain character and possibly the characters around them.
ReplyDeleteHow does imagery describe how a character feels? Example?
Delete"the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily" (46-47)
DeleteThe Book thief:
ReplyDelete-"With a clean-shaven face and lopsided yet neatly combed hair, he had walked out of that building a new man. In fact, he walked out German." (Zusak 159)
- "He- is there's anything you ever need." He slid a piece of paper with his name and address on it across the table." ( Zusak 179)
-The girl nodded. She cried, and now, defeated, broken, her papa held her in the painted air and the kerosene light." (Zusak 204)
The third quote helps visualize and understand the type of person Hans Hubermann really is. I picture him as a serious guy when he needs to be but he also has a kind heart. He helps people even if they don't give anything in return. He needed to be able to be serious with Liesel if not he was putting Max's life in danger if she were to have told anyone that her papa was hiding a Jew. Her foster parents would be taken away and Max would be in danger because the Nazis would take him away. She cried with all the firmness that he was giving towards her but what affected her the most I think was her trying to imagine her living without her papa. They share a big bond and he couldn't bear to see her cry because it made him upset. He has made himself attached to her and by him showing love towards her it shows that he has a heart.
The similarities that both authors used the imagery in a kind of threatning way. Apollo was described in a threatning way, and Liesls Papa had decribed what he would do to her books if she told they were hidding a Jewish man.
ReplyDeleteI also noticed that most of the imagery isnt very positive. the authors may describe things and you get a negative picture in your head. For example when we first meet Max he was described as scum and he was not seen in a very positive way.
I agree with Stephanie because I thought those were the similiarites that the authors used in both texts. They use Imagery in order to almost frighten people to get what they want. In their eyes they're only using it to their benefit.
DeleteEven though most of the imagery was negative, in The book Thief, the part when Rudy and Liesel find some money for candy, they were sharing it and got their mouth red. Those are some positive imagery because they were happy to have a candy.
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Examples of Imagery
-"* * * THE EXTRA CONTENTS OF WALTER KUGLER'S GIFT * * * One small razor. A spoon-the closet thing to a mirror. Shaving cream. A pair od scissors" (The Book Thief 159).
-"His clothes seemed to weigh him down, and his tiredness was such that an itch could break him in two" (The Book Thief 185).
-“Never yet they have driven away my cattle or my horses, never in Phthia where the soil is rich and men grow great did they spoil my harvest” (Line 151-153).
This hows an understanding of the book, The Book Thief, by Markus Zusak, Beacuse the raeder is able to understand what life ios like for the Jews during the time of Hitler. I think taht the author writes the side notes to give a clearer image of what is happening in the book and so that we could understand the book better. The line from Iliad helps me understand what is happening in taht scene.
Similarities:
The similarities between the Iliad and The Book Thief would be that there both in wars(The Book Thief in World War II and the Iliad the war between the Trojans and the Greeks. Another similarity I noticed was that both authors use imagery in their texts to help the reader understand what is happening in the book and how it is imapcting the characters.
Reread your work, Daisy.
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ReplyDelete"First he went after the mules and the circling hounds, then let go a tearing arrow against the men themselves and struck them. The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning." (l. 50-52)
"heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing." (l. 103-104)
"the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea" (line 154)
Imagery from the Book Thief
“We move forward now, to a cold night struggle. We’ll let the book thief catch up later.” (157)
“They thought they might be first to receive a full hygiene inspection or scrub an eccentric lieutenant’s shit-trampled boots before they left.” (175)
“He was first bout when he was eleven years old and skinny as a whittled broom handle.” (187)
The author of the “Illiad” uses imagery to give us a better understanding of the war. Agamemnom was angry at Kalchas because he told him that he has to give back Apollo’s priestess so that he won’t be angry at the Greeks. When Agamemnon heard this "heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing." (l. 103-104). We can see that he is very angry because his heart that was once most likely red is now black. Also his eyes were blazing with fire showing how angry he was. This shows me that Agamemnom may have anger problems and does not like to be disappointed.
The author of The Book Thief uses imagery to give the reader a better understanding of the book. In this part of the book Max’s story is continued. Max has to “move forward now, to a cold night struggle. We’ll let the book thief catch up later.” (157) This tells me that Max will do anything to be free or find hope. I can also tell us about Max’s future and what he might try to accomplish such as fighting when he joins the army.
A similarity I see in these texts is the author’s use of similes and metaphors. This is good technique to compare two completely different things together. For example he uses Max to compare him to a whittled broom. Obviously a human can not be that thin however we get the image that his is skinny looking and not strong. Also in the Illiad the author compares Agamemnon’s heart to the color black. A heart can never be black but it is a good comparison to show how angry or distressed Agamemnom is.
The Book Thief:
ReplyDelete-"it was sitting half rotten in some dirt, on the washing and ironing route. A solitary corroded coin" (155).
-"all that was left was a window of small towns , the congregations of lights, and the woman snoring on the other side of the compartment"(150).
-"When Max heard the news, his body felt like it was being screwed up into a ball, like a page littered with mistakes. Like garbage" (194).
The Iliad:
-"and the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily" (line 46-47).
-"First he went after the mules and the circling hounds, then let go a tearing arrow against the men themselves and struck them. The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning" (lines 50-52).
-"the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea"(line 154)...
The Book Thief:
Ever since Hitler segregated Jewish people the economy of Germany drastically worsened. The author, Markus Zusak uses imagery when he describes the conditions that the people have to endure during the economic crisis. Children resort to searching the ground for coins for money, "it was sitting half rotten in some dirt, on the washing and ironing route. A solitary corroded coin" (155). Even a small amount of money at that time was so valuable to children. This can help the readers' understanding of the novel because it describes how Hitler's rule effected not just the lives of the Jewish German people but also the lives of Aryan German people.
The Iliad:
Homer also uses imagery when he describes the conflicts that occur in the Iliad. He writes, " First he went after the mules and the circling hounds, then let go a tearing arrow against the men themselves and struck them. The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning" (lines 50-52). The author describes the amount of violence and death during the war. It helps the reader understand the conflicts between the characters in the epic poem.
The Book Thief and The Iliad are both similar because they both are written based on the theme of war. The Book Thief is based on WWII and The Iliad is based on the Trojan war. Also in both literary works, the authors use imagery to help the reader understand the plot and the conflicts that occur in the stories.
Example from The Book Thief
ReplyDelete1)"...With red tongues and teeth, they walked down Himmel Street,.." ( Zusak 156)
When Rudy and Liesel found a pfennig(some kind of money) to buy a candy that they both shared. Even though they have their tongue stained red, those are the happy time they had been together.
2)"The shivering hands the smell no, the stench of guilt" ( Zusak 159)
When Walter met Max, he gave him a ticket to a train. This gives us a nervous image because we know he is a jew and his identity card was fake. Therefore he is shaking his hand, to create a nervous image.
3" When the death captures me, he will feel my fist on his face"(Zusak 189)
When the death mention that his uncle was dying he seen death's fist. This helps the reader to understand that his uncle is dying and the death was coming here to pick him up.
Example from The Iliad
1)" The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning"( line 52)
When Aopllo let out the arrows, the fire was burning everywhere, which gives the reader a very dangrous and scary situation in which the human was burning alive and they are helpless.
2) "Even for the day itself he swallow down his anger" (Line 81)
The king was unable to control what the god is doing because he is too strong. Since the king was like the stongest man and he guides the empire, but the god was just having control of his power. This shows he is not as powerful as he seem.
3)" The heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (Line 103-104)
When Atreus's son noticed the story, he was mad and he is showing his extreme anger. This shows his son was not going to get control by anyone.
The book Iliad and THe Book Thief had similaries because they used Imagery to give the reader a sensory image that help the reader understand the how the charater feel. When max was nervous because he was going get checked, his hands were shivering. In the Iliad, it describe the arrow being shot down and fire starts everywhere, this gave the reader how big the fire is and how powerful is the god. Therefore they both helps the reader by creating images.
The Illiad:
ReplyDelete-"Angered in his heart, carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver." (Homer line 44-47)
-"You have bidden me, Achilleus beloved of Zeus,to explain to you this anger of Apollo the lord who strikes from afar."(Homer line 74-75)
-"Still I am willing to give her back, if such is the best way. I myself desire that my people be safe, not perish." (Homer line 112-113)
In the second quote Apollo sounds like a man that if he doesnt get his way everyone else is in danger. If he wants something he'll get it no matter what the cause is. With people fearing him he will always get what he wants because they know he'll always get his way.
Images from "The Book Thief"
ReplyDelete-"We move foward now, to a cold night struggle."(157)
-"The Cologne sky was yellow and rotting, flaking at the edges."(166)
-"The house was pale, almost sick-looking, with an iron gate and brown spit-stained door."(170)
Images from "Illiad"
-"The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning."(Line 52)
-"Come, now, we must haul a black ship down to the bright sea, and assemble rowevers enough for it, and put on board it the hecatomb, and the girl herself."(Line 137-139)
-"where the soil is rich and men grow great did they spoil my harvest, since indeed there is much that lies between us, the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea." (152-154)
Both Homer and Markus used a the literary tool imagery in their work. In the book "The Book Theif", Markus used imagery to describe the surrounding in the setting. When Max was coming to Han's home he saw the house as "pale, almost sick-looking, with an iron gate and brown spit-stained door."(170) This helped the readers picture the Han Hubermann's home. Futhermore, it puts the reader into the position where they are Max and come up with his reaction on the house. In the poem "Illiad", Homer used imagery to describe the Trojan War. In this poem when Apollo was frustrated, he set "corpse fires burned everywhere"(Line 51). This helps the readers imagine Apollo's wrath when he was shooting arrows into the earth. Both these artistes have a similarity where their theme is violence. In Markus's work there is violence in Germany, while in Homer's work there is a war between the Greeks and the Trojans which involved violence. Overall, both authors used imagery in their work to help the audience picture the story line in their work.
I agree with you that Homer and Markus were trying to use imagery to describe thing. However i dont think the book thief carry a theme of violence because everything happen in the past and Markus was trying to use imagery to describe the charater.
DeleteI think the theme could be violence because both The Book Thief and The Iliad took place based on war. When you think of war, you could relate to violence.
DeleteI agree with Ying since The Book Thief takes place and is based on the Nazi's persecution of the Jewish community and World War 2. These current situations in the novel all revolves on the idea of violence. In addition, the Iliad takes place during the Trojan War and the events that happened during the war. So the theme of both pieces of literature could be seen as violence.
DeleteExample from the book The Book Thief
ReplyDelete1)"Papa?'Max stood up,like a struck match.The darkness swelled now,around him"(186).
This shows that when Max arrives at the Hubermann house,Max feels scared when he hears Liesel's voice.This is foreshadowing because Liesel is put into the picture,so now we know that she will be put into the secret and they plan to do something with her.She will find out more on who Max is and what he is doing in her house.
2)"After ten minutes of excruciating discipline,Liesel made her way to the corridor,and what she saw truly amazed her,because Rosa Hubermann was at Max's Vandenburg's shoulder,watching him gulp down her infamous soup" (197)
This helps me to understand how Rosa feels about Max and how she is helping him.It shows the type of person she is despite the insults she makes.It gets me thinking whether or not she will continue to help Max out despite the risks.
3)"She brought the girl into her and heaped a typically rugged embrace around her body"(204)
This helps me visualize when Liesel and Hans were talking about Max and what the consquences would be if she said anything to anyone. It helps me visualize the setting they're in and how Rosa reacts(how she shows her reaction knowing Liesel is in on the secret.)
Example from the Iliad
1)"The shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily" (lines 46-47)
This helps me visualize how Apollo felt and he can be portrayed as.
2)"He spoke thus and sat down again, and among them stood up Atreus son of the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging,the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath,but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (lines 101-104)
This helps me visualize how angry Atreus son feel when he heard about the story.
"...where the soil is rich and men grow great did they spoil my harvest, since indeed there is much that lies between us,the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea" (line 151-153).
This helps me visualize the place that Archilleus is speaking about.
A similarity that I observe from both texts is that the authors both use imagery to help us understand the text better and help us create an image using details that will make it easier for us to visualize. The use of imagery also helps us visualize the author (like how he/she is feeling; their actions,emotions).
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DeleteI agree with Gianni, can you give some examples like in which part of the text did the author use imagery to help us to understand the text better?
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ReplyDelete"The metal was hard and flat, with a healty set of teeth, and he squezzed it till it pierced him."(170).
"He could already taste the error, like a metal tablet in his mouth."(182).
"His back convulsed and his arms were well spread."(198).
These examples of imagery helped me understand the struggling and desperation of each of the characters. The first quote helped me visualize Max gripping the key with such force to the extent of it leaving a red mark on his palm. The image made me comprehend how Max was so desperate in finding safety and survival because the key was his last shot of attaining it. Meanwhile I related to the second quote. I imagined and felt the vile taste of metal and I related it to myself by imaging myself biting hard on a spoon. I personally don't like the feeling and it usually sends goosebumps down my spine. This helped by allowing me to place myself in Hans situation. I was able to understand what Hans was feeling after his errors and how hard it was to cope with something like that. Lastly, the third quote helped me visualize Max's posture and I felt that his pain was transmitted to me. I pictured Max's hands gripping the sink while his arms were spread faraway from each other. This shows how Max was struggling and that he was using his arms for support. Overall Zusak's imagery helps the reader understand the characters' hopelessness and agony.
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The Book Thief
* "In his stomach was the electric combination of nourishment and nausea" (159).
* "His mouth was open and his skin was the color of eggshells. Whiskers coated his jaw and chin, and his ears were hard and flat. He had a small but misshapen nose" (201).
* "It was no longer a straight log but a kind of Z shape, reaching diagonally from corner to corner. Zigzagging the bed" (201).
The Iliad
* "The heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (line 104).
* "That you may learn well how much greater I am than you, and another man may shrink back from likening himself to me and contending against me" (line 181-183).
* "And the anger came on Peleus's son, and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided two ways, pondering whether to draw from beside his thigh the sharp sword, driving away all those who stood between and kill the son of Atreus, or else to check the spleen within and keep down his anger" (line 185-188).
In "The Book Thief" and "The Iliad" both authors Homer and Markus demonstrate the use of imagery very effectively in their writings. In "The Book Thief" Max is a twenty-four year old Jewish man who has been hiding and hiding constantly for years because at the time Nazi's were always hunting people like him. He spends weeks alone without food or water in a storage room and every second he is alive he is scared of being found out about. Markus describes him as "His mouth was open and his skin was the color of eggshells. Whiskers coated his jaw and chin, and his ears were hard and flat. He had a small but misshapen nose" (201). Through this the reader can picture that he has hid so much that his skin was as white as eggshells, and little hairs grew out like whiskers from his jaw and chin from lack of hygiene. The author, describes the terrible condition he has been living under and how much he has gone through. Similar to Markus's technique of imagery, Homer uses imagery through the character Agamemnon who is a powerful leader of the Greek army. He describes himself as, "That you may learn well how much greater I am than you, and another man may shrink back from likening himself to me and contending against me" (line 181-183). Readers can see people who are against him, shrinking down to size next to him. I feel that both Markus and Homer use imagery to describe characters through the types of characters they are. Max who is a Jew is described as weak and destroyed under his living conditions. While Homer describes Agamemnon as a powerful leader and even says how great he is himself. They both use imagery on characters throughout the book with the role that character has in the story.
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The Book thief:
1.His clothes seemed to weigh him down, and his tiredness was such that an itch could break him in two. (185)
2. Max made his way to Munich and Molching, and now he sat in a stranger's kitchen, asking for the help he craved and suffering the condemnation he felt he deserved. (196)
3.The girl nodded. She cried, and now, defeated, broken, her papa held her in the painted air and the kerosene light.(204)
Marcus Zusak use of imagery helps me visualize and understand the actions that are happening in the scene. Based on all the quotes listed above, i can visualize and see how people that were not treated morally right. This helps me understand how things were harshly cruel and complicated for the people that were not involved in the Nazi Party. People who would go against or were not involved in the party that the Nazi;s were mistreated and treated differently then those who were involved in the party.
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Examples of imagery from The Book Thief:
- "triumph before the storm" (167).
- "the church disappeared in darkness the farther his eyes traveled upward" (169).
- "Of course there was also the scratchy feeling of sin" (166).
Max Vandenburg was a poor, helpless Jew who escaped from the Nazis, but needs a place to stay. He then goes to the Hubermann's house to ask them for some help. On the other hand "of course there was also the scratchy feeling of sin" (166). He felt he was doing something wrong because he didn't want to show up and make Hans risk his life for him. But, Max is hopeless and can't fend for himself so he made up his mind to go to their house. This helps me understand how the Jews were treated at the time and how they felt. Since Hans was a Hitler supporter, it makes me wonder if he would help Max.
Examples of imagery from The Iliad:
- "the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily" (line 46-47)
- "the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea" (line 154)
- "And then you will eat out the heart within you in sorrow, that you did no honor to the best of the Achaians" (line 240-241).
The old man was walking to King Apollo and prayed to him. Apollo was angered and felt as though "the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily" (line 46-47). This made me imagine the god walking angrily and forcefully down the road with the shafts making a clashing noise against his shoulders. This visualization helped me understand that Apollo was angry at the old man's prayer. This also made me wonder if this would have an affect later on in the play.
A similarity I noticed was that the two texts used imagery in different ways to help us visualize the actions so we can better understand the book. For example in The Book Thief, Zusak states "triumph before the storm" (167). When I read this I imagined Hitler winning support from the people and dark storm clouds behind him coming slowly. I believe this symbolizes the bad luck, or misfortunes of the Jews and Germany. Also, in The Iliad it says "the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily" (line 46-47). When I read this I imagined Apollo walking angrily which clarified that event a little for me.
Wow I never thought of that. Now you made me think of how Hitler and Apollo are similar. They are both supreme beings who have absolute power and must be respected. In addition they both use fear. Apollo shoots arrows while Hitler can take away people like the Jews and anyone who goes against him. I believe that your comment was very original and it introduced new ideas.
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The Iliad:
1. The heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing (line 104).
2. He spoke thus and sat down again, and among them stood up Atreus son of the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging,the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath,but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing(lines 101-104).
3. He came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow ( Line 47).
Based on these quotes, i can visualize the frustration and how mad the character is based on the words the author used. For example, when the author says, " The heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (line 104). Based on this quote, we all know that the heart is filled with blood and that blood it red, but when the author says that the "heart within filled black to the brim", i can imagine a dark heart filled with hatred and madness almost ready to explode because of the frustration and madness it has. I can also visualize Apollo anger when the author says that he "came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow" (47). Based on this, the reader can visualize the rage and anger Apollo is going through. His use of diction also helps the reader visualize whats going on in this scene. For example the word choices such as "night" and "let go an arrow", Night is known as dark and cold, scary and isolated, you can visualize how mad Apollo really is with the word night since its a very scary, dark word to say in order to explain what Apollo is going through and the conflicts that might start to rise up. Also, with the words "let go an arrow", when we see movies, we imagine people letting go of arrows and killing someone, but in this case we see the feelings and frustration Apollo is going through. Overall, the use of Imagery used by the author helps the reader visualize and understand the text more clear based on the diction choices and author uses and other techniques.
Mariela didn't you use the same quote twice? I believe that you repeated yourself.
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ReplyDeleteSimilarities that i notice in both the "Iliad" and "The book thief" is that both text are in a setting in which the characters are going through war. The characters in both texts are being impacted by war negatively and find it hard to live in a place where war is taken place. In the "Iliad", this takes place during the Trojan War and The Book Thief, it takes place during World War Two. SO basically, both text are written based on the theme of War. he Book Thief and The Iliad are both similar because they both are written based on the theme of war. Another similarity i notice is that both authors use literary tools such as Imagery to help the reader visualize and understand whats going on in the text and the conflicts the characters are facing.
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ReplyDeleteExamples of imagery from The Book Thief:
ReplyDelete“He wasted no time in losing control of the bike, sliding across the ice, and lying facedown on the road” (Zusak 163).
“The house was pale, almost sick-looking, with an iron gate and a brown spit- stained door” (Zusak 170).
“Blood discolored his lips. It would soon be dried across his teeth" (Zusak 190).
Examples of imagery from The Iliad:
“The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning” (line 52).
“The heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (line 103-104).
“Laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard nor disobeyed the word of Athene” (line 215-217).
In The Book Thief, Max Vandenburg was a fist fighter and he was fighting with a kid named Walter kugler. Walter caused Max to have “blood discolored his lips. It would soon be dried across his teeth” (190). This helped the readers to imagine the pains that Max suffered when Walter punched him. The blood discolored his lips provided the readers a image of bloods overflowing from Max’s mouth. With this imagery, the readers could visualized the pains of Max during the fight.
In The Iliad, Chryse prayed to God Apollo when Agamemnon stole his daughter Chryseis. God Apollo interfered with the situation between Chryse and Agamemnon. God Apollo caused “the corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning” (line 52). This helped the readers to imagine the power of God. The fires that God Apollo made continued to burn for days unlike the other fires. This imagery helped the readers to visualized the fires that caused by God.
The Book Thief and The Iliad were similar because the authors used the same theme: war. The Book Thief took place based on World War Two while The Iliad took place based on The Trojan War. Both authors also used imagery to provide the readers with sensory images. Imagery helped the readers to visualize the events that happened as the author describe them.
Examples of imagery from the Iliad:
ReplyDelete"He stood thus and sat down again, and among them stood up Atreus' son the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire blazing" (Line 104).
"And the anger came on Peleus' son, and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided two ways"(Line 184).
"He spoke, and laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard nor disobeyed the word of Athene."(Line 215).
These examples of imagery helped me to understand how anger and rage is something that is mentioned frequently. The first quote helped to visualize a black heart and fiery eyes. Immediately I was able to assume that Agamemnon felt fustration. A black heart reminds me of hatred and being unwilling to forgive. Meanwhile firey eyes remind me of a person with bad temper. Therefore, this image helped me to charcterize Agamemnon as a hothead and bad tempered. For quote two I was able to picture Achilles' heart breaking into two. I connected this to being disillusional because Agamemnon was threatening to take away his prize. This demonstrated that Achilles was heart broken because his Briseis was going to be taken away in order for Agamemnon to be compensated. This helped me to comprehend Achilleus' emotions better. As for the third quote I understood better how Achilleus was able to control his temper by not killing Agamemnon out of rage.
Instead he simply put his sword away and did not let his emotions get the best of him. Homer uses imagery to characterize his characters and so that the reader can know them better.
The similarities between The Book Thief and The Iliad are that they both share the common theme of war. The Book Thief mentions World War II and Adolf Hitler. It also talked about Jews and how they were taken away and lived in misery. Meanwhile The Iliad talked about the Trojan war and how the gods interferred. Both of these texts also mentioned conflicts that the protagonists faced because of war. Liesel's Papa was risking the whole family by hiding a Jew. In addition, Achilles had to withstand Agamemnon taking away his prize. The authors also shared another similarity and that was using the same literary tool of imagery. They both used imagery for the same purpose of conveying the characters' emotions and traits. Overall both texts share several similarities.
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ReplyDelete"Still with red tongues and teeth, they walked down Himmel street, happily searching the ground as they went" (156).
"Rudy held the fatty ham to his nose and breathed it gloriously in" (163).
"The girl began to sob so uncontrollably that Papa was dying to pull her into him and hug her tight. He didn't" (204).
Marcus Zusak uses imagery to help the reader visualize the hard times that are going on during Nazi Germany. Liesel has already experienced this with her mom, her missing father and her dead brother when they were taken away for being communist. The reason why Liesel was crying so uncontrollably was because she doesn't want the same thing to happen to Papa. This quote helps me with the understanding of this time period because it allows me to visualize all the suffering and pain that people were going through during Nazi Germany.
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Examples of Imagery from the Illiad:
"The heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (Homer, line 103)
"Come, now, we must haul a black ship down to the bright sea" (Homer, line 137)
"For Hera the goddess of the white arms sent her, who loved both men equally in her heart and cared for them" (Homer, line 192)
Homer uses imagery to describe the physical appearances of his characters. As he says that "the heart is filled with black to the brim with anger". This helps me visualize the absolute anger that there is in Agamemnon's heart. It helps me have a better understanding of his appearance and traits.
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The similarities that I see in these texts is the use of figurative language. Markus Zusak and Homer both use imagery to convey the message of their story. Homer uses imagery to illustrate the Trojan War. Which will also count as allusion because is referring back to the Trojan War which was an historical event. Similarly, Zusak uses imagery to convey the message of Nazi Germany. He wants us to visualize the way life was during this time period and all the things that people who were not involved in the Nazi party went through.
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“I’ve seen so many young men over the years who think they're running at other young men. They are not. They're running at me.” (174-175)
“Hans looked at the knuckles of his right hand and swallowed. He could already taste the error, like a metal tablet in his mouth.” (182)
“Kugler, suddenly blinded, shuffled back, and max seized his chance. He followed him over to the right and jabbed him once more and opened him up with a punch that reached into his ribs.” (191)
Death tells the story of Papa and how he encountered his accordion. Papa forced himself to be in the war. He was terribly afraid of seeing his fellow soldiers being killed, until one day he met a Jew. Instead of fighting, both rolled up a couple of cigarettes. Death says “I’ve seen so many young men over the years who think they're running at other young men. They are not. They're running at me.” (174-175), this was including Papa’s Jewish friend who saved his life, by blowing up into pieces for him. I can imagine the soldiers clashing against each other. They are making themselves venerable to Death, himself. I think Zusak created this image for the reader because he wanted to show how war made death’s job so easy. Instead of them, the ‘fighters’, thinking that they are lashing at each other to win a war, they are really selling their souls to death.
Vocabulary:
Vicinity: the area or region near or about a place; surrounding district; neighborhood
Platoon: a military unit consisting of two or more squads or sections and a headquarters
Affront: a personally offensive act or word; deliberate act or display of disrespect; intentional slight; insult
Serial: anything published, broadcast, etc., in short installments at regular intervals, as a novel appearing in successive issues of a magazine.
Rheumatism: any disorder of the extremities or back, characterized by pain and stiffness.
Obscenity: offensive to morality or decency; indecent; depraved
Wrath: strong, stern, or fierce anger; deeply resentful indignation; ire.
Sanity: soundness of mind
Iridescent: displaying a play of lustrous colors like those of the rainbow
Hysteria: an uncontrollable outburst of emotion or fear, often characterized by irrationality, laughter, weeping, etc
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“I myself going to your shelter, that you may learn well how much greater I am than you, and another man may think shrink back from likening himself to me and contending against me” (l 180-183)
“You wine sack, with a dog’s eyes, with a deer’s heart. Never once have you taken courage in your heart to arm with your people…” (l 221-222)
“Then looking darkly at him Achilles of the swift spoke; ‘o wrapped in shameless, with your mind forever on profit…’ …” (l 144-145)
Homer’s use of imagery helps a reader to picture what is going on in the scene and also to get a picture on how the gods looked like and get a sense of their personality. Achilles speaks to Atreides saying “You wine sack, with a dog’s eyes, with a deer’s heart. Never once have you taken courage in your heart to arm with your people…” (l 221-222). From this I can infer that Achilles was saying that he was always drunk causing to have dog’s eyes. Some dogs have a poor vision and to have a deer’s heart I thought it was more likely for him to die, because deer’s get killed at the time even in present day in the high ways by cars. Above all, being drunk causes Atreides to not fight with his people. This argument was mainly about Achilles getting upset because Agamemnon is refusing to return the his girl.
katheryn j.b
ReplyDeleteA similarity I noticed by Homer and Zusak is that they both use different usage of conventions, diction and lots of imagery. For example when Death says “I’ve seen so many young men over the years who think they're running at other young men. They are not. They're running at me.” (174-175) and when Achilles speaks to Atreides saying “You wine sack, with a dog’s eyes, with a deer’s heart. Never once have you taken courage in your heart to arm with your people…” (l 221-222) I can imagine exactly what was going on in each scene. Both could have used basic diction but instead they used complex words so that the reader can interpret a better image in their head. Homer and Zusak lastly uses different conventions. In ‘book theif’ Death notes everything that is going on and his punctuation is a bit abnormal. In ‘the iliad’ I noticed that homer would make a character say a paragraph then would use maybe a line or two to be transition to another topic or for another character to speak
Imagery from The Book Thief:
ReplyDelete- "They stood outside Frau Diller's, against the whitewashed wall. A piece of candy was in Liesel Meninger's mouth. The sun was in her eyes." (154)
- "In one hand, he held his suitcase. The other was still holding Mein Kampf. Both were heavy, and both were handled with a gentle secretion of sweat." (169)
- "Between the hand-holding shadows, the painted words were scattered about, perched on their shoulders, resting on their heads, and hanging from their arms." (203)
Using imagery, the author of The Book Thief portrays the bond between Liesel Meminger and Hans Hubermann. Hans takes Liesel down to the basement to remind her of a promise she made on Hitler's birthday. He chose this setting to explain to her the consequences of telling anyone about Max Vandenburg. On the wall, "between the hand-holding shadows, the painted words were scattered about, perched on their shoulders, resting on their heads, and hanging from their arms" (203). Even though Hans is about to give Liesel a lecture, he's holding her hand to provide her a sense of security. The hand-holding shadow on the wall is an imagery that reveals the mutual trust between the two. In addition, since the basement is a place of learning for Liesel and Papa, the wall is covered with painted words. The fact that the words are scribbled all over the place shows that they often spend time down here together. Therefore, the wall of painted words is a visual representation of how their relationship has progressed over time. The bond between Liesel and Papa is portrayed through imagery.
Imagery from the Iliad
Delete-“the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing.” (lines 103-104)
- “the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” (line154)
- “He spoke, and laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard” (lines 215-216)
In the Iliad, the author uses imagery to portray the conflict between Achilleus and Agamemnon. Angry with the Greeks for stealing Chryse, the god Apollo punishes Agamemnon and his group of warriors. Agamemnon agrees to return Chryse under one condition- that he receives another prize in return. Seeing it unreasonable that the warriors should yield their own prize to Agamemnon, Achilleus speaks up against him. However, Agamemnon threatens that if he does not get a prize in compensation for Chryse, he will steal Achilleus' prize. Hence, Archilleus says “indeed there is much that lies between us, the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” (lines 153-154). Since Achilleus and Agamemnon are separated by mountains and sea, geographic features that cover great distances, this imagery emphasizes how different the two of them are. Having come from different places, it's difficult for them to reach agreeable terms with each other. While the unknown is shadowy, the echoing sea illustrates the tension that is building up as the argument progresses.Using imagery, the author emphasizes the obstacle that lies in between Achilleus and Agamemnon.
Stealing occurs in both The Book Thief and the Illiad. In The Book Thief, Liesel steals books. Liesel's love for words compels her to steal books. Similarly, in the Illiad, the Greek warriors steal women. Since they're in another country, abducting women is the only way for them to obtain female companionship. Thievery is present in both texts.
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" The only trouble with this was that Erik Vandenburg would later be found in several pieces on a grassy hill. His eyes were open and his wedding ring was stolen. I shoveled up his soul with the rest of them and we drifted away. The horizon was the color of milk. Cold and fresh.Poured out among the bodies" (Zusak 175).
" Glowing pockets of streetlights. Dark, passive buildings. The two hall stood like a giant ham-fisted youth, too big for his age. The church disappeared in darkness the father his eyes traveled upward"(168-169).
"So yellow and tranquil, despite the violent architecture of his skull- the endless jawline, stretching for miles; the pop-up cheekbones; and the pothole eyes" (188-189).
The author of The Book Thief, Markus Zusak uses many writers tools to convey his message. One of the tools he uses is imagery, this helps the reader use their 5 sense to get a better picture of what happens in the story. The author talks about Max, a Jewish person living during World War II and uses imagery to help the reader understand how his background shaped who Max was. The author uses this imagery when he wrote, "the endless jawline, stretching for miles; the pop-up cheekbones; and the pothole eyes" (188-189). In this part of the story, the uncle of Max died and the author is explaining how his death looked to Max. This death reveals background information about Max, where his will to survive increased as he watches his uncle's peaceful. Max questioned where was his uncle's will to survive and that he will not die that way. This is where imagery helps the reader get a better understanding of Max and his background. Markus Zusak uses imagery in The Book Thief to provide the reader a better understanding.
The Iliad:
"You wine sack, with a dog's eyes, with a deer's heart" ( Homer line 221)
"Athene descended from the sky. For Hera the goddess of the white arms sent her, who loved both men equally in her heart and cared for them" ( line 190-191).
"Come, now, we must haul a black ship down the bright sea, and assemble rowers enough for it, and put on board it the hecatomb, and the girl herself, Chryseis of the fair cheeks, and let there be one responsible man in charge of her... ( Lines 137-140).
The author of the Iliad, Homer uses imagery to give the reader an image in order to understand his point better. Unlike The Book Thief, the Iliad uses imagery to help the understand the story rather than just the characters. Homer writes, "come,now, we must haul a black ship down the bright sea...(line 137). This quote gives the reader an image of something bad. Sending a dark ship into a bright sea is a contrast, the author is describing the sea as a bright place but seems to be interrupted by a ship that does not coincide with nature. Homer uses imagery to give the reader a better description of the story.
The Iliad and The Book Thief are similar because both authors use imagery in order to help the reader understand the story better. Also both themes are about war. The Book Thief takes place between World War I and II while The Iliad takes place during the Trojan War. In both stories the main character is not entirely mortal, The Book Thief uses Death as the narrator while The Iliad uses Achilles, half god and half man as the main character.
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The Book Thief-
1)" It was sitting half rotten in some dirt, on the washing and ironing route.A solitary corroded coin"(155)
2) " he was skinny, with soft hair, and his thick, murky eyes watched as the stranger played one more song in the heavy room."(179)
3) " the reply floated from his mouth, then molted itself like a stain to the ceiling.( 200)
The author used imagery throughout these chapters to help the reader understand what problems or things were going on. In the chapter The Ayan Shopkeeper it talks about Rudy and liesel found a pfennig on the floor and bought some candy with it. When the author was talking about they coin, he described how it looked like and how they found it by the use of imagery. In the chapter The Accordionist the author talks about a character and how he looked like. He also again used imagery to describe that certain character. Also in liesels lecture when the dad asked max if he is okay, his reply was pretty damp. So the author talks about his reply with the use of imagery.
Iliad-
1)" the corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning."(line 52)
2) " So he spoke. The anger came on Peleus' son and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided two ways, pondering whether to draw from beside his thigh the sharp sword."(line 185)
3) " Come, now, we must haul a black ship down to the bright sea, and assemble rowers enough for it, and put on board it the hecatomb, and the girl herself, Chryseis of the fair cheeks."(Line 137-139)
The author used imagery to describe the despite between two main leaders. The author describes everything going on with the use of imagery, what they are feeling, If they are describing something or someone, the author would explain these things by imagey. It helped the reader including myself what was going on during this war. In this certain despite the two main leaders were talking about someone the had to give back but couldn't decide if that was the right idea. The authors use of imagery helped me understand what the main reason was behind this.
Similarities between " The Book Thief" and "Iliad"
The similarities between these two texts that I found were the way the author describes what the situation is by the use of I imagery. In both The Book Thief and Iliad when the author describes a situation they use I Avery to make it clearer to the reader. In The Book Thief chapter The Aryan Shopkeeper Rudy and liesel found a coin and bought candy with it. The way the author described the coin was similar to the way the author described the dispute between the two main leaders in lliad. When one of the leaders were angry the author described what was going through him at that time. So the use of imagery really helped the reader understand and that what was similar in both texts.
Check capitalization and punctuation, Sera.
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The Book Thief by Markus Zusak
“Rudy held the fatty ham to his nose and breathed it gloriously in. “Beautiful.”” (Zusak 163)
This quote helped me understand the text better because it is showing to me how hungry Rudy and Liesel were at that moment. It also showed how society forces them to deal with this problem by stealing food from others. In addition, this quote demonstrated that during the war, many people were starving because the lack of money. On the other hand, this quote gives me the image of Rudy’s hungry and content face.
“When death captures me,” the boy vowed, “he will feel my fist on his face.” (Zusak 189)
This quote helped understand Max better because at first I thought he was only an ordinary Jew who was a coward. However, my mind changed after I read the quote because the quote showed that Max was a tough young man who was not afraid of death. When he said when death captures him, death will feel his fist on his face; he showed me that he was not only tough but violent. He demonstrated that he was able to protect himself but in reality, it is not what it seem. Also, this quote gives me the image of Max’s determined face.
“When she awoke completely, she watched the stranger in the bed opposite. The blanket showed only a nest of lopsided hair at the top, and there was not a sound, as if we’d somehow trained himself even sleep more quietly.” (Zusak 200)
This quote helped me have a better image of Liesel because it showed me that Liesel is a curious young child. This quote is describing the way Liesel saw Max sleep and how curious she was. Liesel is feeling strange about Max. She does not know who he is but she seems to find him interesting because in the quote, it said that “when she awoke completely, she watched the stranger in the bed opposite.” Normally, when a person finds something interesting, they would look at it for a long time and pays careful attention to it like Liesel did.
The Iliad by Homer
“… and among them stood up Atreus’ son the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing.” (Homer Lines 101-104)
This quote helped me better understand Agamemnon because it showed me that he is not only a powerful man but also an easily raging man. The way the quote described him helped me visualize Agamemnon in a clear way. In my visual image, I see a man standing up to defend his point, though he did not seem to be furious, his eyes were all red like it’s about to explode.
“…Achilleus of the swift feet spoke: “ O wrapped in shamelessness, with your mind forever on profit, how shall any one of the Achaians readily obey you either to go on a journey or to fight men strongly in battle? I for my part did not come here for the sake of the Trojan spearmen to fight against them, since to me they have done nothing.” (Homer Lines 145-150)
This quote gave me a better image of Achielleus because it showed me that he is man who cares a lot about fighting. He showed to me that he does not like people like Agamemnon because he only cares about his profit. This quote tells me that he likes warriors like himself. He does not want Agamemnon just to fight for his good but for others. He wants him to be a great leader who everyone respects. For Achielleus, he does not really care about the war because he is just helping.
“And then you will eat out the heart within you in sorrow, that you did no honor to the best of the Achaians.” (Homer Lines 240-241)
This quote showed that Agamemnon is an irresponsible warrior because as Achielleus said, he did no honor to the best of the Achaians. This gave me the image of Agamemnon being greedy and careless of his soldier. I see him only fighting for his good (prize) and forgetting about others.
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ReplyDeleteThe similarities of these two texts are the way the author uses imagery to give a better image to the readers. For example, in the book The Book Thief, the author described Max, the Jew as a scary subject who might cause trouble to the Hubermann’s family. On the other side, in The Iliad, the author described Agamemnon as a careless, irresponsible and scary man who only cares for himself and his prize. The styles of both authors are similar because they use different strategies like dialogue or small story to describe them. Their way of describing gives the readers a better understanding of the characters and the book. In addition to the style, both texts shared another common subject which is war. In The Book Thief, the war was about the German war and in The Iliad, the war was about the Trojan War. Both texts demonstrated the cause of the war and illustrated the injuries of different kind of people.
Imagery from The Book Thief:
ReplyDelete- "A small man was stuttering about, crushing the broken glass beneath his feet as he cleaned up." (181)
- "Max stood up, like a struck match." (186)
- "His body felt like it was being screwed up into a ball, like a page littered with mistakes. Like garbage." (194)
In The Book Thief, Markus Zusak uses imagery to show how Jews lived in fear during the time of Hitler's reign. The Jews were being terrorized all throughout the country because they were so hated by the Aryan race. In Molching, there are very few Jewish shops left. The rest of them were attacked and/or vandalized by German men. Hans Hubermann witnessed four German men throwing bricks into a Jewish clothing store. Inside, Hans saw "a small man was stuttering about, crushing the broken glass beneath his feet as he cleaned up" (181). The four men had also vandalized the store, writing JEWISH FILTH with mustard colored paint. Although Jews were ostracized, Hans didn't have anything against Jews. He knew the small man cleaning, and offered his services. The man refused to accept his services because Hans was German. Like many other Jews at the time, the small man lived in fear of being attacked by Germans. This is an example of imagery because he was in such shock, that rather than cleaning, he made things worse by walking over the broken glass.
I would have never thought of the Jew walking over the broken glass as imagery. However, now that I think about it I do remember picturing a man walking on the broken glass as he cleans up. It actually does help the reader understand what position the Jew was in at the time.
DeleteYes, it does. Since a Jew's cries would be rendered useless, the man tried to quickly clean up his shop by himself, only to make matters worse by stepping all over the broken glass.
DeleteImagery from The Book Thief:
ReplyDelete1) “With a clean-shaven face and lopsided yet neatly combed hair, he had walked out of that building a new man” (159).
2) “A small kid with soft tufts of hair, a beaten nose, and swampy eyes, Max was a good head shorter than his opposition” (190).
3) “Between the hand-holding shadows, the painted words were scattered about, perched on theif shoulders, resting on their heads, and hanging from their arms” (203).
Imagery from “The Illiad”:
1) “He spoke and thus sat down again, and among them stood up Atreus’ son the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (line 100-105).
2) “…since indeed there is much that lies between us, the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” (line 153-154).
3) “"And the anger came on Peleus' son, and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided two ways" (Line 184).
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ReplyDeleteImagery in the book, The Book Thief by Markus Zusak, helps the reader to understand the point of view of the character at hand. Max Vandenburg was a Jew in Germany during the time of Hitler’s dictatorship. He managed to survive in secret after the Kristallnacht. The Kristallnacht was the first extreme act of violence against Jews. He was twenty-two. His best friend was a German that managed to save him from all the chaos and from being taken and killed. However, that friendship was made through, ironically, fighting. Earlier in his time, around the age of 16, Max was a Jew into fist-fighting. A Jew into fighting is ironic because Jewish people then were considered the type to stand and take everything, but never to fight. He had gotten into a fight with Walter Kugler, the guy that later helps him and becomes his best friend. However, at the time they were enemies, and part of groups that fought for fun. Max was “a small kid with soft tufts of hair, a beaten nose, and swampy eyes, Max was a good head shorter than his opposition” (190). Zusak included imagery into this sentence so the reader could picture the position Max was in. He was small, and a good head shorter than his opposition, he was at a disadvantage. However, later on it shows how Max was still fervent and pushed into a fight that lasted an hour long. He didn’t give up and wound up winning, even though it seemed he would lose at first. The author added to the imagery by describing other features of his body to make it easier for the reader to picture the situation. Adding the expression to his face and the hair on his head, along with the height and structure of his body, makes it much easier for the reader to understand and picture the situation. Zusak’s usage of imagery helps the reader to understand Max and his point of view as he’s about to fight an important person that later saves his life.
ReplyDeleteBook I of the epic poem, “The Iliad” written by Homer, contains pieces of imagery that lets the reader understand the character’s feelings and point of view. An epic poem is a poem that is really long and contains a hero that is often an exile. In this case, the hero in the poem is Achilleus. He is not really an exile, but he is an outsider from the remote Greek-speaking world. Agamemnon is the greedy person in the story that takes most of the booty (loot or prizes) that Achilleus gains by going into war and defeating enemies. Usually a person’s status is based upon how much they have, and even though Achilleus is considered and remarked as the greatest warrior, he gets less booty than Agamemnon, who virtually does nothing. Achilleus is frustrated by this especially after he finds out the gods are mad at the Greeks because Agamemnon has stolen a woman from the Trojans. Achilleus “spoke and thus sat down again, and among them stood up Atreus’ son the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (line 100-105). Agamemnon is extremely insulted when Achilleus insists that he would give the woman back to the Trojans. Homer lets the reader know more about the character personally by adding imagery. Imagery describes a person and gives depth. Giving depth into Agamemnon allows the reader to understand the personality and situation he is in as if they were watching him there, or in his shoes. We know that he is extremely pissed off because his heart was filled black to the brim with anger and it showed in his eyes. He must have seemed scarily angry, the reader would think. Agamemnon’s personality and point of view was shown through the imagery Homer includes into his poem.
Samantha, this is a good example of imagery, but at the beginning you mentioned understanding the "point of view of the character at hand." I understand that the character is Max, but what exactly is the point of view? And whose point of view is it? The author's or the narrator's?
DeleteIt's max's point of view, the imagery allows us to understand how he feels at the moment and what his personality is, which forms his point of view.
DeleteI still don't understand. What exactly is Max's point of view? How does his appearance help the reader understand his personality?
DeleteThe fact that we know Max was shorter and had less build than Walter, we can imagine that he thought of himself as having a disadvantage. Most people would be intimidated, but he didn't show fear. It helped the reader infer that Max was fearless. It adds on to the part earlier in the chapter where Max said "when death captures me,... he will feel my fist on his face" (189). He was fearless, which is a characteristic. The imagery allows the reader to infer that about him. Zusak uses imagery in order to let the reader understand the position the character was in and his perspective.
DeleteAlthough these two pieces of literature contain completely different time periods and conflicts, they have many commonalities. Since the conflict, time period and countless other segments of the pieces of literature are different, the one thing that remains similar is the literary devices used. In both pieces of literature, imagery is obviously used. The imagery just adds to the readers understanding of the character. Some structural choices were also made in order to give the reader a certain feel of the text. On top of that both similes and metaphors are used. Many literary devices are used in both texts, which is to be expected because if anything is a good piece of literature it should contain some sort of literary device. It lets the reader understand the whole idea the author is painting for them. A good piece of literature will leave the reader with an in depth understanding and clear perception of what the author wanted them to. Both of these pieces of literature contain literary devices that let the reader grasp a better understanding.
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ReplyDelete“ the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath,” (108 to 104)
“ his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (104)
“Chryseis of the fair cheeks” (139)
Imagery for The Book Thief “ her teeth elbowed each other for room in her mouth” (155)
“Rudy’s animal- like choppers” (155)
“sugar was like glass” (155)
“ with a clean- shaven face and lopsided yet neatly combed hair”(159)
Imagery from The Iliad:
ReplyDelete- "the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing." (Lines 104-105)
- "never in Phthia where soil is rich and men grow great did they spoil my harvest" (Line 152-153)
- "Pondering whether to draw from beside his thigh the sharp sword" (Line 185-186)
In The Iliad, Homer uses imagery to show how Agamemnon is easily enraged. He has a lot of power as a king, but when mad, his two eyes "showed like fire in their blazing." A blazing fire is fiery red and big. When Homer uses this imagery, one can imagine the state of anger that Agamemnon is currently in.
Examples of Imagery in the book thief:
ReplyDelete"He sat propped against a wall with a child in his arms. His sister. When she stopped breathing he stayed with her, and i could sense he would hold her for hours. There were two stolen apples in his pocket (167)"
"The conversation of bullets. Resting men. The best dirty jokes in the world (175)"
"Anxiety, disbelief, paranoia. Each plays its part and each leads to a sneaking suspicion that a less heavenly consequence awaits. The fear is shiny. Ruthless in the eyes (199)"
These examples of imagery in the Book Thief helps the reader to see how World War 2 affected people in different ways. For example some people had the fear of being killed just because of their ethnicity, others had to fight in a war they didn't actually want to be in, and others experienced losing those whom they were very close to.
Examples of Imagery in the Iliad.
"The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning (L52)"
"O wrapped in shameless, with your mind forever on profit,how shall any of of the Achaians readily obey you either to go on a journey or to fight men strongly in battle (L45)
"Then stricken at heart though you be, you will be able to do nothing, when in their numbers before man-slaughtering Hektor they drop and die (L239)"
These examples of imagery from the Iliad show how war brings destruction, man-slaughter, and chaos all throughout. War brings out traits in people that normally wouldn't show if it wasnt for the fact that was has touched them in any sort of way.
There similarities of the Iliad and The Book Thief is that both have the theme of war. Both show the negative aspects and feelings war brings out. For example in The Book Thief it brings out negative feelings like fear, anxiety, sadness, paranoia and in the Iliad it shows negative feelings such as unethical-ness,and shame. War brings destruction, and with the use of imagery both authors let their readers imagine the type of destruction and events happening in their story, without using plain, general words. Plain general words bore the reader and doesnt allow them to think beyond the rocks with their imagination but with the descriptive words that help you imagine the theme of war readers can see what war really brings and how people see war through different perspectives.
Nicole, your ideas are good, but i was confused about the part where you said imagery shows how war brings destruction. I understand how war brings out destruction, but how do the quotes show it?
DeleteThe quotes show it by using key words such as "Anxiety, disbelief, paranoia, fear (199)" and also by describing "corpe fires burning everywhere(L45)" and by talking about "Man-Slaughter (L239)." Destruction has to do with ruining things, and in these quotes it shows the ruins of people's ethics and innocence, and also the ruins of places in which manslaughter and deaths take place.
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DeleteExamples of Imagery from the Iliad:
ReplyDelete"...heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath" (lines 104-105)
"And the anger came on Peleus' son, and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided two ways, pondering whether to draw from his thigh the sharp sword, driving away all those who stoop between and kill the son of Atreus, or else to check the spleen within and keep down his anger."(lines 184-188)
"You wine sack, with a dog's eyes, with a deer's heart"(line 221)
When the author of the Iliad describes the way Achilles feels, it makes me feel the way he does and I really understand his frustration and feel of disrespect by Agamemnon. It also helps me visualize Achilles' appearance. For example he wore a breastplate (a piece of armor across the chest) that did not fully fit him because it was long and uneven. This example of imagery also made me understand and acknowledge that Achilles had a bad temper and had to decide whether he would let it take over or do the right thing and calm down. He was willing to take the extreme of killing Agamemnon until he was convinced otherwise by Athene, who was sent by Hera "the goddess of the white arms". It was most discerning to me also because I could relate to that scenario where I was angered by someone and felt to react in a volatile manner though my conscience convinced me otherwise so I was able to understand what was going on inside him.
Even though these two texts are very different, they are in fact very similar. The style they are written in is similar because the authors included imagery to help the reader understand the state of being that the character is in. In The Book Thief, the shop owner is a Jew. His shop is vandalized by German men, and he scrambles around his shop trying to clean up the glass on the floor. One can visualize a man in shock. His attempts to clean up the broken glass was rendered useless. This is an example of imagery simply because it helps better the readers understanding of the Jews in the novel. Similarly, Homer uses imagery in The Iliad to help the reader visualize Agamemnon enraged. His eyes are compared to "fire in their blazing." One can easily visualize fire, especially when it's blazing. It is a fiery red, and red can symbolize anger. When put together, the reader can picture a very angry Agamemnon.
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Examples of imagery from The Book Thief:
•“…and now all that was left was a window of small towns, the congregations of lights, and the woman snoring on the other side of the compartment” (Zusak 160).
•“Far off, they could still hear the sound of deserting feet when an extra hand grabbed the wire and reefed it away from Rudy Steiner’s pants.” (Zusak 165).
•“A trickle of blood was dripping from Max’s mouth. He tasted it, and it tasted good” (Zusak 187).
In “The Book Thief” Marcus Zusak uses imagery to help the reader understand what kind of person the main character, Liesel, really is. When Rudy, Liesel and Arthur go to the potato farm to steal potatoes everything seems to be going as planned until they are spotted by the farmer. Once the group sees the farmer, everyone dashes over the fence, leaving Rudy behind who was the farthest from the group. As Rudy is running away he gets caught on the fence and Liesel is the only one who goes back to help him. Once Liesel is helping Rudy free, Marcus Zusak sets the scene that Liesel was in “Far off, they could still hear the sound of deserting feet when an extra hand grabbed the wire and reefed it away from Rudy Steiner’s pants.” (165). Despite the tension Liesel was facing, it shows that she is caring of others and that she isn’t a complacent person. Sure, Liesel could have gone with Arthur and leave Rudy behind but that’s not who she is. By going back to save her friend it is revealed that Liesel is a person that can be relied on and trusted. Not only does it reveal the kind of character Liesel is, but the way Marcus Zusak incorporated these words it displays for the reader a detailed scene of what Liesel was going thorough while helping Rudy escape free from the fence.
Examples of imagery from The Iliad:
•“Apollo heard him, and strode down along the pinnacles along the pinnacles of Olympos, angered in his heart, carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver; and the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily” (Homer line 43-47)
•“...the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (Homer line 103-104)
•“Never in Phtia where the soil is rich and men grow great did they spoil my harvest, since indeed there is much that lies between us, the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” (Homer line 152-154).
Homer uses imagery to help the reader understand the comparison between how the god and the humans express their anger. The description Homer gives about Apollo when he is angry, carrying the bow across his shoulders and walking angrily gives me the image that he is planning to attack. It gives the impression that he will eventually burst into attack which he does so, attacking the mules, men and starting numerous fires. Also the descriptive words used by Homer to describe Agamemnon’s anger, comparing his eyes to fire, give the impression of a fearful man, but unlike Apollo who is a god, he does not have the strength to carry weapons that will cause destruction and let his anger known.
The similarities between “The Book Thief” and “The Iliad” are that both authors use descriptive phrases/words to provide a clear image of the setting. In “The Book Thief” Mark Zusak gives a clear image of the setting to the reader by writing phrases such as “window of small towns” and “congregations of lights”. Instead of stating small towns and lights, Zusak expands so the reader can get a better understanding of the environment a character is in. In “The Iliad” Homer uses key words that create a vivid image of an environment for the reader. The city of Phtia is described as having “rich soil” and when Achilleus is speaking to Agamemnon the difference between them is written as “shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” which gives the reader a visual of how Achilleus views himself superior than Agamemnon.
The quote “ his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (104) contributes to an understanding of the book it comes from for various reasons. One main reason is that the metaphor that Homer uses makes the mood of what he is talking/ writing about. When he talk’s about fire you think of guns, which then makes you think of murder of killing which more often than not equals war. In the Iliad the major theme of the book is way. With the quote you also think of an anger that can’t be contained and war always starts because of a dispute. That is how the quote contributes to the understanding of the book.
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DeleteI totally agree with you. When a person's eyes show "fire blazing", it usually means not a good thing. That person is heading towards violence and will start a dispute with another person. This often leads to major problems especially if the two people fighting are powerful leaders.
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P.S. Two things well, two corrections. The quote is a simile since it includes the word like and I think you meant war instead of way in the part where you state " In the Iliad the major theme of the book is way".
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Imagery in The Book Thief
1. “The metal was hard and flat, with a healthy set of teeth, and he squeezed it till it pierced him” (170)
2. “The light in the room was small, and the air restrained” (179)
3. “Hans looked at the knuckles of his right hand and swallowed. He could already taste the error, like a metal tablet in his mouth” (182)
In The Book Thief, Zusak includes imagery so the reader can understand the problems the character faces. When Hans decides he can’t be a Nazi, he knows he is going to have to face problems. Hans was really nervous when he decided to tell the Nazis he wouldn’t be one because at the time, he “looked at the knuckles of his right hand and swallowed. He could [even]… taste the error, like a metal tablet in his mouth” (182). By doing this, Zusak makes it clear that Hans will face big problems for not joining. Hans was looking at his knuckles instead of looking at the Nazi because he knew he was wrong to do that since it would only create bigger problems for him. People from his society were going to judge him and he wasn’t going to receive the benefits a Nazi had. The image created helps readers conclude that. Also Zusak stated that Hans could even taste the error. If Hans “tastes” this, it means he will have to face bad consequences. Overall, Zusak includes imagery in his book so the reader can understand the problems the character faces.
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Iliad
1. "Athene descended from the sky" (lines 190-192).
2. "laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great black blade (lines 215-216)
3. "He came as night comes down and knelt then apart" (lines 47-48)
The Book Thief
1. "A star the of mustard was smeared to the door" (Page 181).
2. "When she stopped breathing, he stayed with her, and I could sense he would hold her for hours" (page 167)
3. "Blood discolored his lips. It would soon be dried across his teeth" (page 190)
In both pieces of literature, the author uses imagery to help the reader gain a better and clearer understanding of the character. In the novel, The Book Thief the author, Markus Zusak uses imagery to allow the reader to get a better understanding of certain characters. In the novel, the author described how Author Berg lived after he left Munich, "when she stopped breathing, he stayed with her, and I could sense he would hold her for hours"(page 167). This imagery allows the reader to have a better understanding on the characters future and allows the reader to see the results of his constant stealing. The poet, Homer uses imagery for a similar reason as Markus Zusak. In the Iliad, the author Homer described Athene as she, "descended from the sky" (lines 47-48). This use of imagery allows the reader to see the significance of Athene from the use of the word "descended". The reason why this word is so significant is because when someone descends its more amazing than if Homer said "flew" or "came". In addition, these two pieces of literature are similar from the uses of literary. Literary tools that were already mentioned was imagery but also these texts uses allusion, metaphor, personification and etc to help convey certain ideas. In the novel The Book Thief and the Iliad uses similar literary tools to help the reader learn more about characters in the story.
The quote “ with a clean- shaven face and lopsided yet neatly combed hair” contributes to an understanding of the book it comes from for various reasons. One major reason is that if someone has “lopsided” hair that means that something happened. That something could be very important to what the book’s theme is, in this case the person who has the lopsided hair is a Jewish man named Max. During that time Jewish people were condemned as the people who bought all the bad attributes to Germany. This also shows that Max is trying to fit in and not be caught because he wants to live and be somebody in the world.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that Homer uses certain types of words for certain reasons. However, can you go more in depth how on the word lopsided goes with the theme of the book? I didn't really understand why how this words relates to the theme of the book.
DeleteSome similarities that I find between the two texts are that there is repetition. Authors use repetition in order for that particular word to stick in their mind. Another similarity is that both authors use omniscient viewpoint so that the point of view is told from someone who is able to talk about the characters and what happened in the past or the future. Additionally another attribute that both authors give in their texts is that both have biases in the text that they wrote. In “The Iliad”, Homer is biased because he favors some characters more than others. In The Book Thief Zusak favors Liesel and her friends and family more than other people. That is how both texts are similar since they both use some of the same literary devices.
ReplyDeleteWhere exactly is repetition used in the stories and how does it contribute to a better understanding of both stories?
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Imagery in the “Iliad”
1. “fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning." (52)
2. “His two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (104)
3. “Nor shall ever blossom again, since the bronze blade stripped bark and leafage” (232)
In the “Iliad”, Homer uses imagery so the reader can visualize the problems between characters. Homer wants the audience to visualize the damage that was done when Apollo was mad. Supposedly, there were “fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning."(52). Since there were problems between Apollo and the Greeks, the image that Homer created was useful because it helps the readers understand how serious the problem was. If the fires weren’t everywhere and they stopped burning, then the readers would’ve assumed that the problem wasn’t that serious. Creating this image for the audience was helpful to comprehend the problems between characters.
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DeleteI agree with you that the first quote shows the problems between the characters. This quote doesn't show the damage that made Apollo mad. It just shows the destruction Apollo made when he found out his priestess was missing. The actual quote was “ The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning”. Besides, the quote revealing the problems between the characters, the author could also used symbols to represent the character’s feelings. Since the corpse didn't stop burning, it could have represented the anger Apollo had towards the Greeks.
DeleteImagery from the Book Thief:
ReplyDelete"So much good, so much evil. Just add water."(154)
"I have Liesel Meminger in one hand, Max Vadenburg in the other. Soon, I will clap them ntogether."(158)
"...the young man's voice was scraped out and handed across the dark like it was all that remained of him."(173)
When the author, Markus Zusak, says he is about to clap two characters together, he is trying to say that he is going to soon tell a story about them both where they are equally essential in the plot. This made me infer that they would have something to do with each other in particular. He basically made the focus of what he was later to say about Liesel and Max. Mind you that he did not introduce any other character in the book in that manner or saying he was going to "clap them together" with Liesel. By saying that he has Liesel in one hand and Max in the other, he made me infer that he was going to make them fit together in the scenario and make their roles intevene to make the story more savory.
Imagery From The Illiad:
ReplyDeleteA.) "...wide-ruling Agamemnon raging the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing," (Homer, L. 102-4).
B.) "First he went after the mules and the circling hounds, then let go a tearing arrow against the men themselves and struck them," (Homer, L.50-1).
C.) "He came as night comes down and knelt them apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow," (Homer, L. 46-7).
When Homer explains to the audience how "...wide-ruling Agamemnon [was] raging the heart within filled black," (L. 102)this reveals a certain glory implied about the strength of an angry ruler. Instead, of describing Agmamnenon as foolish, hateful or dark, the author chooses to describe his anger as "wide-ruling." This almost allows the reader a glimpse into the time period surrounding the Trojan War. This era seems to be a time where aggressive emotion and will power are respected, rather than looked down upon as they are in current day.
Imagery From The Book Thief:
A.) "A trickle of blood was dripping from Max's mouth. He tasted it, and it tasted good," (Zusak, 187).
B.) "I will take each and every one of your books and I will burn them. I'll throw them in the stove or in the fireplace," (Zusak, 203).
The last quote listed provides an insight into the immense fear and trauma of The Book Thief's setting. This time period was full of death; death of a culture, death of human spirit, and the death of humans, in general. This quote reveals all three of these examples of death. Trust was severed between Liesel and Hans because of his threat to destroy what little she loved. It was the decaying of the Jewish culture in Germany that even provided this circumstance to occur. Lastly, it was the unspoken, threat of death which provided Hans the motivation to evoke fear in his daughter.
Both texts are engulfed in a deluge of war. The Illiad, involves a war that is glorified because of the involvement of gods. The Book Thief, conveys a sense of godly worship about Hitler that Liesel's life seems to be caged by. Both of these books refer to people whose lives were toyed with, i.e. Hector (The Illiad), and Liesel (The Book Thief). These godlike beings, whom most praised, often brought about destruction and war. These are two very prominent and inexorable themes in each story.
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A similarity between both texts is the intentions of the authors. I mean, it seems to me both authors use imagery so the audience could understand what is going on. For instance, both authors use imagery to provide a useful image in the audience mind. Homer uses imagery so the reader can visualize the problems between characters and Zusak includes imagery so the reader can understand the problems characters face. In other words, they both use imagery so the audience could have a sense in what’s going on. When Homer provides images so the readers can visualize the problems between characters, he is really trying to help the audience what he is talking about. He is making the problems clear and show how serious the problems are. Zusak is similar to Homer by includes imagery so the readers can understand what’s happening. More specifically, Zusak wants the problems characters face clear. By including imagery, he is doing that. The audience can truly understand the problems by reading imagery. Both authors may try to help the readers understand their stories for different reasons but they both want the readers to understand. Overall, both authors use imagery so the audience could understand what is going on.
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DeleteI agree that the imagery used by both authors provide the readers something so that they can understand the character's situation better. However, I believe that it adds more understanding to the individual rather than their problems. For example, when you wrote about Hans Hubbermann, you said that he was looking at his knuckles because he knew of the troubles he would have to face. That to me describes Hans' personality more than his problems. Anyways, this is what I think.
The similarity most distinctive to me between the two text was that they both used the tool of imagery to make their stories more interesting. It also helps the reader to be able to visualize and place themselves into that particular setting and get more engaged into the story. Within imagery can emerge insight and more flavor to the text that would convince the reader to keep reading. Imagery in literature is a unique device used to appeal to a reader and captivate his/her attention and clutch it. Throughout both texts, both authors use this device repeatedly to bring to their reader motivation and a sort of intensity in your image perception when your translate it from from to images in your brain.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you since imagery from both texts added a better understanding for readers by "emerging insight". I like the way you described imagery and what it can add to a work of writing.
DeleteThe Book Thief
ReplyDelete1) “So yellow and tranquil, despite the violent architecture of his skull- the endless jawline, stretching for miles; the pop-up cheek-bones; and the pothole eyes” (188-9).
2) ”The light in the window was gray and orange, the color of summer’s skin, and his uncle appeared relieved when his breathing disappeared completely” (189).
3) “There were smiles practically wrapped around the onlooking faces. Money was clutched in filthy fingers, and the calls and the cries were filled with such vitality that there was nothing else but this” (190).
“The Iliad”
1) “So he spoke in prayer, and God Apollo heard him, an strode down along the pinnacles of Olympos, angered in his heart, carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver; and the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily” (lines 43-47).
2) “…the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging, his heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing.” (lines 102-104).
3) “Come, now, we must haul a black ship down to the bright sea, and assemble rowers enough for it, and put on boards it the hecatomb, and the girl herself, Chryseis of the fair cheeks…” (lines 137-139).
Markus Zusak, the author of The Book Thief, used imagery to help the reader understand the setting. Max, a friend of the main character’s dad watches his uncle pass away. As he was dying, the author describes the room. Around Max’s uncle, “the light in the window was gray and orange, the color of summer’s skin, and his uncle appeared relieved when his breathing disappeared completely” (189). I can see that he died a peaceful death because of word choices such as “light” and “relieved”. In my head I picture a small room with light pouring on a man on a bed with gray and orange walls. The man has a worried face but slightly smiling as he passes away. This helps me, a reader, understand the setting since I can see where the scene is talking place.
In “The Iliad” by Homer, the author also uses imagery. To describe a character named Agamemnon, Homer uses vivid words. He was “the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging, his heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing.” (lines 102-104). The readers can clearly imagine the anger within Agamemnon because of phrases like “his heart within filled black to the brim” or “his two eyes showed like fire”. The color “black” is normally associated with darkness with is evil and hateful. The blackness of Agamemnon’s heart is therefore full of anger. The reader can also picture his eyes blazing and fire is “energetic” just like his anger. He is full of it and it’s in his eyes and his heart. The imagery used here describes Agamemnon clearly when he was mad.
Both Zusak and Homer are similar authors because they both used imagery. They use it to describe their characters. For example when Homer described Agamemnon, he used words like “black” and “fire”. Also Zusak used imagery to describe the setting in that particular part of the book. Another similarity is that both have to do with war. Homer is writing his piece about the Trojan War and Zusak talks about Hitler during World War II.
Imagery From The lliad
ReplyDelete1. “He came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow” (47-48)
2. “First he went after the mules and the circling hounds, then let go a tearing arrow against the men themselves and struck them” (50-51)
3. “I am alive above the earth and see the daylight shall lay the weight of his hands on you beside the hollow ships” (88-89)
The quote “First he went after the mules and the circling hounds, then let go a tearing arrow against the men themselves and struck them”, helped be me get a better understanding of the book. Since this quote is an example of imagery, I was able too see King Apollo attack everything he saw. I imagined him hitting, kicking, screaming at the mules and running in circles around the dogs in a horrible manner. Thanks to this picture I realized Homer uses imagery to show the reader what characters feel through their actions. Homer doesn’t always have to state directly how the characters are feeling at the moment. Since Agamemnon took King Apollo’s priestess, the reader can conclude how angry Apollo must be. In order to display Apollo’s anger, Homer describes the things Apollo’s does to get his frustration out. Homer simply displayed Apollo’s anger by hurting animals and killing groups of men.
Imagery from The Book Thief
1. “This,” Rudy announced at one point, with a candy-toothed grin, “is the good life,” and Liesel didn't disagree” (155)
2. “It was November 3, and the floor of the train held on to his feet. In front of him, he read from the copy of Mein Kampf. His savior. Sweat was swimming out of his hands. Fingerprints clutched to the book” (157).
3. “Bollinger didn’t flinch anymore. Standing upright, he delivered the fact as a question of his own. “Well, Hans. Are you a member?”(181).
The third quote ”Bollinger didn't flinch anymore. Standing upright, he delivered the fact as a question of his own. “Well, Hans. Are you a member?” (181), I was able to see the setting of the book. Before Bollinger asked “Are you a member?” (181), Hans was losing his Jewish
customers and came to see of Bollinger knew a reason why he lost his customers. Bollinger knew the reason why Hans had lost his customers and asked Hans if he was a member of the Nazi Party. When I imagined this I was able to come up with the conclusion that this book took place around where Jews weren’t so popular and were unwanted. Since Hans was asked if he was part of the Nazi Party, I knew the Nazi Party had to be the reason why Jews were not wanted. As it turns out the book takes place around the time where Hitler gained a lot of power and started mistreating the Jews.
The book thief and the lliad are similar because they use the same literary techniques and have the same theme. The theme of both of these texts is war. The lliad talks about the Trojan War, which was the Trojans, and against the Greeks. The Book Thief is takes place while Hitler rules around World War Two. Both authors use imagery to make the read become engaged into the reading get a better understanding of the book.
ReplyDeleteIs there another literary technique other than just imagery that both authors use?
DeleteBoth authors of the book use symbols to represent some important things in the book. For example, in the Book Thief, the book The Grave Digger's handbook represents the lost time Liesel seen her dead brother. Also the accordion, symbolizes peace and happiness. When Liesel wasn't feeling her best, Papa would play the accordion and Liesel would end up feeling better after he was done playing. Also from tonight's reading I found out the accordion was a lifesaver for Papa because it helped him escape from entering a battle. On the other hand, the women in the Iliad are symbols of honor given to warriors. For example, Agamemnon captured Chryseis because she was his prize for having a high status. Achilles was also going to get a prize at the end which was going to be Brises.
DeleteFrom The Book Thief:
ReplyDelete1. “When she stopped and stole one last look at the foreigner in the kitchen, she could decipher the outline of a book on the table”. (Page 186)
2. “Liesel sat on top of a meter-tall heap of drop sheets, Papa on a fifteen-liter paint can.” (Page 202)
3. “The girl began to sob so uncontrollably that Papa was dying to pull her into him and hug her tight.” (Page 204)
The quote that stated, “Liesel sat on top of a meter-tall heap of drop sheets, Papa on a fifteen-liter paint can” (Page 202), really helped me to see Liesel’s living conditions better. Although Liesel and her Papa were in the basement, it was still clear that they didn’t have much. We can infer that the Hubermanns were poor. This quote just supports that idea even more. Thus, this piece of evidence helped me to better picture how poor the Hubermanns really were during this period of time.
From The Iliad:
1. “Then in answer again spoke Achilleus of the swift feet:” (Line 84)
2. “…His two eyes showed like fire in their blazing.” (Line 104)
3. “And the anger came on Peleus’ son, and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided two ways…” (Lines 184-185)
The quote which stated, “…His two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (Line 104) really helped to show Agamemnon’s personality. A fire is bright and heated, and it always attracts attention. When Agamemnon’s eyes is described this way, an image came into my mind. At that moment, I saw Agamemnon as a determined, controlling, and scary man. I saw Agamemnon as a furious man that I should fear.
Similarities between The Book Thief and The Iliad:
The Book Thief and The Iliad share similarities. In both texts, there is a character that is or should be feared. For example, in The Book Thief, Max greatly fears the Nazis. Also, in The Iliad, there is evidence that supports the idea that Agamemnon should be feared. Both texts have opposing sides as well. The Book Thief talks about the Germans and Nazis again the Jews. The Iliad talks about Agamemnon against Achilleus. Thus, these two texts share these similarities.